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		<title>By: angelica</title>
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		<dc:creator>angelica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just curious how do I find out which pre-installed software can be erased safely without any consequences to the computer?

For example I&#039;ve got a fingerprint reader can I only use the &#039;Asus&#039; security manager...,my laptop being Asus?

Also anyone that has an Asus laptop have you found any of the pre-installed  software useful or necessary? 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just curious how do I find out which pre-installed software can be erased safely without any consequences to the computer?</p>
<p>For example I&#8217;ve got a fingerprint reader can I only use the &#8216;Asus&#8217; security manager&#8230;,my laptop being Asus?</p>
<p>Also anyone that has an Asus laptop have you found any of the pre-installed  software useful or necessary? </p>
<p>Analog</p>
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		<title>By: gemad</title>
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		<dc:creator>gemad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got a super fast 4  or 5 GB, quad HP....like you say,  lots of junk...lots of things,  folks want you to buy.

I was pleasantly surprised to see a cyberlink program to help with my Blue Ray burning....for free !  You see I&#039;ve got a Blueray Burner installed.  

Most of the Trials and freebles are older stuff...just a teaser.   


Now the Computer is way to quiet for my liking...does stuff I can&#039;t fathom...but then, I&#039;m an old foggie...and most machines are smarter than me.

I deleted Norton, as best I can....I think I killed it off.

Quicken.....dead as well.

cyberlink power director 5   dead.....Don&#039;t go near anything but version 7 ultra !


If something doesn&#039;t jump up into my face,  on my HDMI Big Screen Benq...I live and let live.


I think life is better with 64 bit Vista...but then I don&#039;t go near the Net, with my new baby.   

I will use the older 32 Bit  XP  computer,  as long as I can,   for the Net.

I think it&#039;s like a good pair of shoes...we get along just fine.

Now Vista,  I don&#039;t know........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got a super fast 4  or 5 GB, quad HP&#8230;.like you say,  lots of junk&#8230;lots of things,  folks want you to buy.</p>
<p>I was pleasantly surprised to see a cyberlink program to help with my Blue Ray burning&#8230;.for free !  You see I&#8217;ve got a Blueray Burner installed.  </p>
<p>Most of the Trials and freebles are older stuff&#8230;just a teaser.   </p>
<p>Now the Computer is way to quiet for my liking&#8230;does stuff I can&#8217;t fathom&#8230;but then, I&#8217;m an old foggie&#8230;and most machines are smarter than me.</p>
<p>I deleted Norton, as best I can&#8230;.I think I killed it off.</p>
<p>Quicken&#8230;..dead as well.</p>
<p>cyberlink power director 5   dead&#8230;..Don&#8217;t go near anything but version 7 ultra !</p>
<p>If something doesn&#8217;t jump up into my face,  on my HDMI Big Screen Benq&#8230;I live and let live.</p>
<p>I think life is better with 64 bit Vista&#8230;but then I don&#8217;t go near the Net, with my new baby.   </p>
<p>I will use the older 32 Bit  XP  computer,  as long as I can,   for the Net.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s like a good pair of shoes&#8230;we get along just fine.</p>
<p>Now Vista,  I don&#8217;t know&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Dufus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dufus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the computers I have purchased over the years, I always get the recovery/reinstall disks, and the first thing I do after booting up and running for a few days is wipe the hard disk and reinstall from scratch.

There is just so much annoying and useless &quot;bloatware&quot; that it&#039;s not funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the computers I have purchased over the years, I always get the recovery/reinstall disks, and the first thing I do after booting up and running for a few days is wipe the hard disk and reinstall from scratch.</p>
<p>There is just so much annoying and useless &#8220;bloatware&#8221; that it&#8217;s not funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I am the odd-ball of the group; I love Norton! When I purchased my Dell, custom built, I had them install McAfee since I had been hearing so many &quot;good things&quot; about them. (at that time, I was unhappy with Norton) After receiving my computer with McAfee, I hated it, thus, removed it. Like others mentioned, it was hard to find all the hidden aspects of the program to completely remove, but with trial and error, I finally did...and have been a Norton fan ever since..newer versions are better. As for the pre-installed software, I guess I was lucky. Since I ordered my Dell, I chose the software packages, and the &quot;extras&quot; that tagged along were added bonus&#039; for me. True, the few things that were &quot;trials&quot; were of no interest to me, thus, I deleted/removed them, except for Microsoft&#039;s &quot;extras&quot;. They were the biggest nightmare. I found you could not remove things such as MSN without screwing up everything, thus, I have to have it, but just avoid it. IE used to be good in the old days, but it allows too much &quot;junk&quot; to get into my system, and so going directly to the internet through IE is avoided; I prefer going through AOL. Some others, such as Quicken, I just never installed; they simply sent me the disk for me to install if I wanted. 
I am no computer pro by any means, my Dell is only my second computer, and I love it.
I do agree with everyone as far as the &quot;junk&quot;. I think they need to be explained more for it to benefit all, because if I don&#039;t understand it, it gets shelved. I won&#039;t delete it if I am not sure what it is and it looks possibly useful, because I may need it or understand it one day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I am the odd-ball of the group; I love Norton! When I purchased my Dell, custom built, I had them install McAfee since I had been hearing so many &#8220;good things&#8221; about them. (at that time, I was unhappy with Norton) After receiving my computer with McAfee, I hated it, thus, removed it. Like others mentioned, it was hard to find all the hidden aspects of the program to completely remove, but with trial and error, I finally did&#8230;and have been a Norton fan ever since..newer versions are better. As for the pre-installed software, I guess I was lucky. Since I ordered my Dell, I chose the software packages, and the &#8220;extras&#8221; that tagged along were added bonus&#8217; for me. True, the few things that were &#8220;trials&#8221; were of no interest to me, thus, I deleted/removed them, except for Microsoft&#8217;s &#8220;extras&#8221;. They were the biggest nightmare. I found you could not remove things such as MSN without screwing up everything, thus, I have to have it, but just avoid it. IE used to be good in the old days, but it allows too much &#8220;junk&#8221; to get into my system, and so going directly to the internet through IE is avoided; I prefer going through AOL. Some others, such as Quicken, I just never installed; they simply sent me the disk for me to install if I wanted.<br />
I am no computer pro by any means, my Dell is only my second computer, and I love it.<br />
I do agree with everyone as far as the &#8220;junk&#8221;. I think they need to be explained more for it to benefit all, because if I don&#8217;t understand it, it gets shelved. I won&#8217;t delete it if I am not sure what it is and it looks possibly useful, because I may need it or understand it one day.</p>
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		<title>By: G. Perreault</title>
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		<dc:creator>G. Perreault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have purchased Dell computers and asked the phone sales person to have anything they can remove, removed.  The last two times they have actually removed a number of items.  When the computer arrives I use Revo, CCleaner and JV 16 to remove all traces of unwanted programs.  My newest computer has Vista 64-bit.  I was one of the testers of the Vista system and Microsoft rewarded my efforts with a free copy of Vista Ultimate in both 32 &amp; 64 bit versions.  I reformatted the hard drive and installed the 64-bit Ultimate version on a unit that came with 64-bit Vista Home and bloat ware.  No junk ware need apply.  

The first pre-installed software that ever gave me a real problem was Norton.  Not only did it require many hours, but serious research to get rid of all the pieces.  The only software I have ever seen that was worse was AOL installations I got rid of for friends.  That has forever left me with no desire to try Norton, even if it gets great ratings.  Ironically, Norton &amp; AOL have contributed some income to me.  I have gotten paid for removing them from the systems of people to whom I was recommended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have purchased Dell computers and asked the phone sales person to have anything they can remove, removed.  The last two times they have actually removed a number of items.  When the computer arrives I use Revo, CCleaner and JV 16 to remove all traces of unwanted programs.  My newest computer has Vista 64-bit.  I was one of the testers of the Vista system and Microsoft rewarded my efforts with a free copy of Vista Ultimate in both 32 &amp; 64 bit versions.  I reformatted the hard drive and installed the 64-bit Ultimate version on a unit that came with 64-bit Vista Home and bloat ware.  No junk ware need apply.  </p>
<p>The first pre-installed software that ever gave me a real problem was Norton.  Not only did it require many hours, but serious research to get rid of all the pieces.  The only software I have ever seen that was worse was AOL installations I got rid of for friends.  That has forever left me with no desire to try Norton, even if it gets great ratings.  Ironically, Norton &amp; AOL have contributed some income to me.  I have gotten paid for removing them from the systems of people to whom I was recommended.</p>
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		<title>By: Bev Chapin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bev Chapin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Jim Park, I install Revo Uninstaller and CCleaner to remove programs I don&#039;t want, starting with anything Norton. Once considered the very best, I used Norton long ago until it took over my system in ways unfathomable and got in the way, and that was before Revo - yuck. Then away go all those &quot;offers&quot; and most of the other extras so I can install my own apps. Out goes Adobe Reader, in goes Foxit Reader, Open Office, Convert, AusLogics defrag, Firefox &amp; Thunderbird. If in doubt about any program or service, check Black Viper web site for guidelines. I&#039;m shortly going to try building my own machine and also learn Linux after formatting and fresh install of XP and the freebies I treasure on my older Sony desktop to be shipped to a daughter.

TechTV was a good teacher, now I rely on a choice list of newsletters from experts like Jake Ludington to keep up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Jim Park, I install Revo Uninstaller and CCleaner to remove programs I don&#8217;t want, starting with anything Norton. Once considered the very best, I used Norton long ago until it took over my system in ways unfathomable and got in the way, and that was before Revo &#8211; yuck. Then away go all those &#8220;offers&#8221; and most of the other extras so I can install my own apps. Out goes Adobe Reader, in goes Foxit Reader, Open Office, Convert, AusLogics defrag, Firefox &amp; Thunderbird. If in doubt about any program or service, check Black Viper web site for guidelines. I&#8217;m shortly going to try building my own machine and also learn Linux after formatting and fresh install of XP and the freebies I treasure on my older Sony desktop to be shipped to a daughter.</p>
<p>TechTV was a good teacher, now I rely on a choice list of newsletters from experts like Jake Ludington to keep up.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Park</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first thing I do with any new machine is to install Revo Uninstaller, along with CCleaner. Revo is the absolute best uninstaller I have used in years. Not only does it scan the Registry to find which keys have been left over from an install; it also scans and allows one to delete files related to the unwanted install. A word of caution here: Do NOT delete anything left behind from a MS Office product uninstall--if you have other MS Office products installed that you will continue to use in the future! This is the voice of experience! 8-) However, it does an excellent job of cleaning off unwanted MS items, if that is what you wish to do.

After uninstalling everything deemed useless or a hindrance, I run CCleaner&#039;s Registry Cleaner a number of times, until it finds no more issues. This combo has saved me many hours of sleuthing to discover just what the sloppy uninstallers leave behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first thing I do with any new machine is to install Revo Uninstaller, along with CCleaner. Revo is the absolute best uninstaller I have used in years. Not only does it scan the Registry to find which keys have been left over from an install; it also scans and allows one to delete files related to the unwanted install. A word of caution here: Do NOT delete anything left behind from a MS Office product uninstall&#8211;if you have other MS Office products installed that you will continue to use in the future! This is the voice of experience! 8-) However, it does an excellent job of cleaning off unwanted MS items, if that is what you wish to do.</p>
<p>After uninstalling everything deemed useless or a hindrance, I run CCleaner&#8217;s Registry Cleaner a number of times, until it finds no more issues. This combo has saved me many hours of sleuthing to discover just what the sloppy uninstallers leave behind.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Allan Jefferds Sr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn Allan Jefferds Sr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I purchase a pre-built system I will immediately uninstall things I absolutely know I will not ever use, like M$ Office (Open Office fan). Software I&#039;m unsure or unfamiliar with, I&#039;ll leave for a while and give it at least one try. After several months I&#039;ll take a look through the menus again and anything I have not used, &quot;oh look there&#039;s that app to watch videos on ESPN&quot;, I&#039;ll dump. If I haven&#039;t found a need for them by then, I never will! 

One area I pay special attention to is when I install apps I have gone in search of. It seems like you can&#039;t install anything without it wanting to install Ask, Google or Yahoo Toolbars, I always decline.

I&#039;m having a little different experience on one of my machines, a desktop that we recently abandoned MS all together and switched to Linux Ubuntu. I&#039;ll grab a hand full of new apps to install, give them a quick spin, then pull off anything that doesn&#039;t suit my fancy. My wife and kids seemed to respond positively to Ubuntu, my 3 year old, Wyatt, simply adores all the available games. Between it and the system with Windows, Wyatt always chooses to play with the Ubuntu system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I purchase a pre-built system I will immediately uninstall things I absolutely know I will not ever use, like M$ Office (Open Office fan). Software I&#8217;m unsure or unfamiliar with, I&#8217;ll leave for a while and give it at least one try. After several months I&#8217;ll take a look through the menus again and anything I have not used, &#8220;oh look there&#8217;s that app to watch videos on ESPN&#8221;, I&#8217;ll dump. If I haven&#8217;t found a need for them by then, I never will! </p>
<p>One area I pay special attention to is when I install apps I have gone in search of. It seems like you can&#8217;t install anything without it wanting to install Ask, Google or Yahoo Toolbars, I always decline.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m having a little different experience on one of my machines, a desktop that we recently abandoned MS all together and switched to Linux Ubuntu. I&#8217;ll grab a hand full of new apps to install, give them a quick spin, then pull off anything that doesn&#8217;t suit my fancy. My wife and kids seemed to respond positively to Ubuntu, my 3 year old, Wyatt, simply adores all the available games. Between it and the system with Windows, Wyatt always chooses to play with the Ubuntu system.</p>
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		<title>By: rOSS cHEREDNIK</title>
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		<dc:creator>rOSS cHEREDNIK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First I install Revo Uninstaller.  Then I remove all trashware completely and have a clean, uncluttered machine ready to run efficiently and unhampered by resource grabbing junk.  If PC decrapifier did a better job of cleaning the registry and junk files, I&#039;d gladly use it, but more and more I&#039;m starting to think that I&#039;ll have to start building my own machines to be free of unwanted slowdowns and problems force on my by greedy manufacturers who seem oblivious to their consumers needs and desires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First I install Revo Uninstaller.  Then I remove all trashware completely and have a clean, uncluttered machine ready to run efficiently and unhampered by resource grabbing junk.  If PC decrapifier did a better job of cleaning the registry and junk files, I&#8217;d gladly use it, but more and more I&#8217;m starting to think that I&#8217;ll have to start building my own machines to be free of unwanted slowdowns and problems force on my by greedy manufacturers who seem oblivious to their consumers needs and desires.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For $75.00, the Geek Squad at Best Buy will strip all commercial add-on software from a new purchase. Outrageous.  You can do it yourself but the esoteric names of some products don&#039;t allow you to know if it is part of the operating system or a legitimate add-on.  Every new product should come with a list of pre-installed s/w and instructions for getting rid of it.  I spent a total of 3 hours over 2 days getting rid of stuff that popped up on my new HP laptop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For $75.00, the Geek Squad at Best Buy will strip all commercial add-on software from a new purchase. Outrageous.  You can do it yourself but the esoteric names of some products don&#8217;t allow you to know if it is part of the operating system or a legitimate add-on.  Every new product should come with a list of pre-installed s/w and instructions for getting rid of it.  I spent a total of 3 hours over 2 days getting rid of stuff that popped up on my new HP laptop.</p>
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